eighth grandson. >> thank you, kitty. diana for girl and arthur if it's a boy. eric: we will be back at 4:00 p.m. eastern with more news. see you then. ♪ >> the democrats are trying to win 2020, the only way they could look out is by going after me. >> welcome to the journal editorial report, paul gigot. democrats step up investigation and the department in congress. democrats seek to go public officials. house judiciary chairman jerry nadler wrote this week that any

attack from appearing before committee will amount to obstruction, saying in a statement, quote, the moment to prevent testimony from being heard has long since past. eighty-first attorney general of the united states. so let me ask you about the criticism level in the last week against attorney general william barr for summary of the mueller report and then conclusion that there was no obstruction. is that fair criticism? >> first of all, summary of 400 page report.

and he i think likely summarized and summarized the adverse. paul: it wasn't exoneration. >> not an exoneration and no criminal collusion. paul: what about letting copying see redacted parts of the report, he will let them come out except the grand jury testimony. is that a fair compromise? >> that's a fair compromise. maybe unnecessary one. let them see. the redactions are very limited. i think it's less than 6% of the

total redacted and including ongoing investigation or ongoing case. paul: right. he said he will do that. >> the exception, going to court to get grand jury communication listed but that's only for law enforcement purpose. now, congress i suppose can pass statute. [laughter] >> not going to happen. paul: let's go to subpoena, all subpoenas. that's a weird position from executive brand. do you think they'll be give and

take here? >> typically you mentioned the possibility of the constitutional crisis, oddly -- [laughter] >> neither congress' right to subpoena executives more executive privilege, both of these are powers. it's a showdown of implicit powers. not explicit powers and these things are usually resolved voluntarily. paul: right. >> indicated and it almost never and should never go to court. paul: right, they want political branches to fight it out themselves, on the other hand, if the congress does issue subpoenas and the president asserts executive privilege will not allow it to happen, they have gone to court in the past.

>> sure, and you notice at the time that in the holder case, it was 2 and a half years. paul: a long time. >> until the court finally ruled that the executive privilege would not be upheld and new congress -- paul: yeah. there's also the president's former general white house counsel who talked extensively to the mueller investigators and it's in the report. congress is saying we want him, trump is saying, no, we are not going to allow that and could claim -- could claim executive privilege and ground they would object, but having talked to special counsel, does that mean privilege has been waived? >> i don't think so. >> really? >> first of all, not necessarily. the special counsel, that's communication within the

executive. secondly, this can be construed in so far as it encompasses what he told the special counsel. first step would be -- if they haven't seen the testimony. if there's record of testimony, i have to believe that there is. paul: sure. >> give testimony and i think the fact that they wanted -- it's much more dramatic and much more circus-like to have a witness there than in court. paul: how do you think the showdown will look like, do we have deadlock for the most part here for the next 2 years? >> that depends on the

personalities involved. i know that they will file subpoenas, people say behind the curtain. paul: they may end up getting some leeway. >> again, yes, congress can hold somebody in contempt. a then former official of hoover administration was arrested and held at the hotel. paul: i don't think that's quite going to happen again. appropriate it. when we come back house speaker nancy pelosi, push of democratic divide when we come back ah! that was a stunt driver. that's why esurance has this drivesense® app. the safer you drive, the more you save.

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>> one of the most divisive path that is we can go down in the

country but if the facts, but if facts take us there we have no choice. but we are not there yet. paul: we are not there yet, house speaker nancy pelosi, some pushed to launch impeachment proceedings against president trump in washington post op-ed wednesday, 2016 democratic presidential nominee hillary clinton called special counsel mueller report road man that documents a serious crime against the american people but urged democrats not to rush the congress questioning and not jump straight to up or down vote on impeachment. let's bring in wall street journal columnist deputy editor dan henninger and kim strassel and bill mcgurn. bill, what we have the impeachment straddle, oh, he's

guilty of obstruction, he's guilty of crimes, he's guilty of impeachable offensives but we don't want to quite get to impeachment, how do you get to that? >> depends on the word we, some in the party that clearly want to move ahead and they think the mueller report gives them the evidence that they need, but even even jerry nadler -- paul: head of judiciary. >> in terms of the formal process of articles of impeachment, he would be the key player, he said that they would meet -- need before they start this, they would need evidence persuasive that even people that voted for trump that would be persuaded. you can't have impeachment where half of the people you think you are going after the guy's party. the dilemma for democrats is that with the mueller there's no republican vote in house, it doesn't go anywhere in the

senate. a lot of people the people who won like my congressman, won in republican districts didn't really mention trump, this is not what they want. paul: they want it both ways, they want to say he's guilty of offenses but they don't want to pull the trigger on impeachment. it's a little bit, either committed impeachable offenses or he didn't. >> that's right, nancy pelosi conveys the dilemma of that straddle because what we are talking about here is whether the democrats are going to become the trump impeachment party from now till october of 2020 because make no mistake about it, if they start impeachment proceedings, the mainstream media which was so invested in the collusion narrative lost on that nothing more to pivot and push the trump

impeachment narrative. you think newspapers will have interest in agenda, health care, infrastructure that sort of thing? paul: essentially against trump, obsessed with trump? >> is that a winning political strategy until 2020. paul: kim, following the democratic presidential campaign you have elizabeth warren saying they should open impeachment proceedings, kamala harris, most of the others have not but how much is the pressure at the grassroots and in ranking filing congress to start up impeachment proceedings? >> well, that's exactly why you see them in the straddle, paul, there's enormous pressure for them to do just that, there's member member members of the grassroots community is to reverse the last election because that's how much the hatred for trump is. i would note of presidential candidates so far elizabeth

warren, kamala harris, they are down in the polls, this seems to be a play to get some attention, maybe break out a little bit, the wiser heads in the party understand they can't go there. look, at this moment forget republican votes, they probably don't have democratic votes, that's why hillary clinton said what she did. don't rush to up or down vote because it can be very embarrassing if they didn't have their own party and the vote failed. that's the other problem they are facing. >> she doesn't want cross pressure on seats they picked up in 2018. if forced to, some of them may have to vote for impeachment because of risk of primary challenge but they could be hurt in november? >> yeah, there's no real good answer here for them and that's why we see them going along what their goal is, they will hold hearings, try to tease out more

hurtful information of the president that they can use to beat with on -- beat him with when they go to presidential election, that's what they are trying to got out -- get out of this at this point. paul: does it hurt or help proceedings? >> they spent 2 years on this special counsel jihad against me and the collusion wasn't there and this isn't there, he has the attorney general on why there's no obstruction. in some sense i think it would make sense for democrats to talk about impeachment but not really do, kind of put a taint on them for the campaign. they know it's not going to go anywhere, even if they did it, the senate won't do anything about it. >> a wounded candidate. >> when you're in a situation you would let lawyers and bog

down with proceedings, trump may just decide he'll take them on personally day after day and make himself the issue. paul: you know he would. >> of course, he would. he thinks it's an opportunity. he could become obsessed as well and the public says -- >> that's exactly right. you run the risk of exhausting the public with trump presidency. it's going pretty well right now and the question is will he do that. paul: all right, thank you, when we come back joe biden makes it official jumping in to already very democratic presidential race. can the former vice president sell his candidacy to increasingly left-leaning party the best simple salad ever? heart-healthy california walnuts. the best simple veggie dish ever?

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>> i believe history will look back 4 years of this president but if we give donald trump 8 years in the white house he will forever and opportunity mentally alter the career of this nation and i cannot standby and watch this happen. paul: back with dan henninger, kim strassel, allysia finley. kim, what did you make of the charlottesville message, right message. >> no, wrong message. at least honest message. it makes very clear that democrats including their front runner at the moment for the nomination, they're going to make this entire campaign and this election about donald trump, not about their ideas,

not about what they want to do for the country, it's going to be about fear-mongering and the contrast. that's certainly going to appeal to some people in the country but on the back of the mueller report and the democrats in bashing on the president, the big question is what do you stand for, what are you going to do, we got none of that from biden's message. paul: i think the message was that i'm the best guy to be able to beat trump, never mind the policy stuff, i can take him on. >> i think he probably can take him on one-on-one but he's also being described the guy who can bring back the democratic voters who voted for donald trump in places like pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. so what does that video message saying to those voters, the guy you voted for donald trump is the greatest threat to the united states in my lifetime.

>> 63 million people voted for a racist. >> he's insulting the people he's supposed to attract. he's describing the united states as a complete mess and we are just reporting again 3.2% growth, he was the vice president of a presidency for 8 years that presided over a stagnant economy, that's why people elected donald trump, so i agree with a lot of contradictions going on inside the biden message right now. paul: let's step back a bit, what are biden campaign strengths, what does he bring to this race that makes him think he can win? >> well, he's very popular again among the labor vote, midwest, state that is trump won, wisconsin, michigan. paul: philadelphia. >> philadelphia. he has a lot of support among black voters. paul: because barack obama.

>> barack own i'm and brings supposed expertise, i think, expertise and experience. i think the country is a little tired of 2 or 3 years already and they want more steady hand, biden has been around for ages. paul: he has a reputation, somebody who can deal republicans one-on-one, he doesn't look at them, somehow you're an immoral creep. let's get a deal, there's that promise. >> compromise with republicans and he doesn't billify like the others do. >> weaknesses? >> he admits that, there could be a problem. one of the biggest weaknesses, well, we are talking about democratic nominee, he is not, he has to go through the democratic primary system and as

we get described here the democratic party now is being run at least in its public face by the progressive left, they think they control this party now and as we saw just the day after he announced, anita hill, he apologized to anita hill, she said i don't accept his apology. it's not enough. the left is unforgiven right now and they will lean on joe biden heavily and then he will have to pay democratic left and that does damage to the idea that he's appealing as centrist. paul: kim, he will have to declare himself sooner rather than later on medicare for all, the green new deal, reparations for slavery, free college, all the other things that candidates are proposing and they're going to want to say, joe, what do you stand, where do you stand here, are you trying to run above it all, he's not going to get away with that? >> yeah, he has two problems, past record, dan was alluding to

some of that, interaction in the anita hill hearing, views on criminal justice system in the past, et cetera, but then he's got the future issues to deal with too, as you mentioned, he's very avoided coming out on all of them. i personally think that where he to be the candidate that said, look, i'm a fan of fixing obamacare, i'm a fan of more progressive movement in this country but we can't go all the way there, that would be his best play to get the centrist in the party to maybe get some of those trump voters back that dan was alluding to. that's not going to be good enough for them and that will be a big question. there's a big portion of the democratic primary at the moment, i would say a fifth, maybe a third, they are bernie sanders folks, they are progressives, they are going want joe biden to be all in on their policies and he risks alienating them if he does not.

paul: allysia, do you think biden is best democratic candidate to beat trump? >> i agree with that, i also think it does appeal to some of the trump voters, not all of them. i think by the time the primary is over, they're going to eat him up and he's not going to be as competitive, he's going to have to move to the left. paul: democratic competitors. still ahead the u.s. economy picking up steam in the first few months of the year, what first-quarter growth are, white house chief economist joins us next. ...we're open just pass the ball! no, i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with geico. yea. [quartet singing] shoot the j! shoot, shoot, shoot the jaaaaaay... believe it! geico could save you fifteen percent

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>> an incredible number but remember this, not only that we have a great growth, we have great growth and also very, very low inflation, our economy is doing great, number one in the world. paul pal president -- paul: pret trump touting the american economy, far exceeding expectations, kevin who is chairman of the white house council of economic advisers, good to see you. i was surprised, how about you? >> you know, the day before the president asked us what what we thought the number would be and i told the guys to say 3 because

there was so much strong data at the end to have quarter, the forecast for the year, the gdp3.2 growth and first quarter 3.2%, i guess we shouldn't -- [laughter] >> but the thing is there are a lot of reasons to be optimistic, we could have a blow-out year, the first quarter is usually percent below the rest of the year, if we are looking at 4% year is we will be getting ahead, we had a government shutdown, government shutdown, 3 and a half, little bit of thing going on, you could be looking at unusually start year, one of the strongest years that we've had in decades. paul: okay, a lot of the critics are looking at details of the report, wait a minute, not so strong, inventory contributed much more than they have and that's volatile. export, net export contributed a lot more than has, that's extremely volatile, so you're going get a weaker quarter here

in the second quarter and go kind of come back down to earth, what's your response to that? >> well, first of all, you remember last year, you have the wall street journal reminding folks that we got last year exactly right and -- paul: we weren't kind. [laughter] >> the fact is that last year with below 3% and why should we expect the year to be worst than last year, doesn't make sense to me. going into the second quarter, big positive is we will get 3 tenths of a percent back over what you think the growth is because there's no government shutdown and the other thing is that incomes are growing a lot faster than consumption, it was weak but not merely keeping up with income in the first quarter and end of last year, the reason why inventories are accumulating is retailers are expecting to have a blockbuster, late spring and summer and i have to say in march data you can really see that so i would guess right now

if i had to write second-quarter number it would be about 3.2 as well. paul: okay, interesting, business investment grew in middle of last year, housing still is taking away from gdp growth, not as much as it has in the last few months but in the last year but still negative. how do you -- rudies appointed with business? >> no, the thing that happens in business investment, but the fact that what happens after tax reform capital spending jumps to higher level and goes back to trend, we expected because of the cost of capital dropped 9% that investment would go down and start growing trend. as long as you maintain the much higher level you get much faster growth rate in the economy.

the growth happens and now expected to go down about half of that and so i think the first quarter is with that. paul: okay, talking about the labor market, you say consumption didn't contribute as much as it had, how much do we still have with unemployment at 3.8% and job growth still going but not at 250 or 300 or 375,000 a month. >> the thing to remember the job growth story that has slowed down because we don't have enough workers is apparent in 2016, in 2016 the budget office said in 2018 we will add 58,000 jobs because we didn't have enough workers, we added 206,000, the new hires, three quarters were people that came off the sidelines, what is happening strong wage growth and booming economy and people who were discouraged by the obama economy are getting, you know,

up off the couch and getting back to work and wonderful thing to see. paul: 1 million, 2 million of those people left, do you have an ability to calculate that? >> yeah, in fact, a lot of things that we have been following that help us how many you could get, i'm not going to give you a hard number now because it depends on things like, seriously, are we successful in opioid crisis, how much positive room we make in that direction. there's plenty of room to continue to have job growth because there's so many people that are able-body and working age that are on the sideline that is we can pull back in. the final thing is one of the places where we haven't seen uptick, for example, is for females that have children at homes and so if incomes continue to rise, people will do math if they can afford child care or take the jobs, more and more people will say yes. that's maybe the next thing that i expect to see move this year.

paul: you suspect the unemployment rate to keep going down briefly? >> yeah, i think that the idea that unemployment is 4 and a half or 5 is not consistent with what we are seeing. the other headline in gdp, it accelerated rapidly. there's a risk now that the weakness in europe will import deflation into the u.s. and gdp around the world synchronize, monetary policies not synchronize and that will be a challenge for central banks around the world. we are definitely not seeing the kind of inflation that models would predict. paul: i will not ask you to talk about the fed there for me. kevin hassett, thank you for being here. >> thank you. paul: when we come back supreme court in bitter controversy over the trump's administration to add citizenship question to 2020 census. what we learned learned from ths oral arguments next lisa jones!

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>> supreme court went into hotly contested debate with justices hearing all arguments on the question whether commerce secretary wilbur ross acted lawfully, discouraging immigrants from filling out census forms, back with dan henninger, bill mcgurn and allysia finley, why does the case matter? >> political appointee who is are appointed by the president and confirmed can overrule bureaucrats. paul: look, we think this is a bad idea to add census question because it will reduce people, the response rate. >> right, hypothesize that. they actually didn't do a scientific study on this which was actually pointed out, justice kavanaugh pointed that

during oral arguments. paul: and your argument would be that in fact, the statute that defines the census gives commerce secretary wide latitude to make the decision. >> right, in all forms and manners, gives him wide discretion to determine what questions are on the census, the constitution in itself gives the authority from congress and delegated back to commerce secretary, not the director of defense, the commerce secretary. paul: dan, show your reading from the oral argument of this case, how is this breaking down? >> breaking down pretty clearly with the liberals not want them -- the question is can you put a citizenship question in the census. paul: right. >> the liberals argue that you're supposed to count everybody in the united states, everybody resident and that includes illegal immigrants. they say that if you ask these people a citizenship question they won't show up or go out the back door and you'll get

undercount and we can do it without asking citizenship question by using computer modeling and software and handling it that way. paul: the stakes here, bill, it's not the numbers, ramification ifs for electoral votes, which states have the number of votes and congressional redistricting because if you give more seats based on illegal immigrants to california or new york, it means you have to take those seats -- >> federal spending depends and so forth, that's why they do it. look, i think the constitution is pretty clear that the government is meant to count everyone in the state, the whole population i think is the language that they have. there's no contradiction between counting the whole population and then finding out the sub categories how many are citizens. i don't think it's about fearing and undercount, there's no evidence that people would be less cooperative.

i think really the fact is a lot of people don't want to know. more important, they don't want the american people to know the proportion of citizens and noncitizens in given areas. paul: i guess the question, though, some of the left say we haven't had a citizenship question since short-form questionnaire, why add it back now. wilbur ross said we need it for voting rights act. >> funny because liberal states made that exact claim a couple of years ago in another supreme court case which argued that and they argued that the community survey which is conducted annually with 2.5% of households, that's insufficient and we need better data, if you are going to enforce voting rights act. paul: now credible enough. >> exactly. exactly. paul: purposes of this. okay, so how do you think this will turn out. >> i think this is 5-4 decision with conservatives upholding

based on the principle, statutory principle, the law gives the commerce secretary broad discretion here. paul: doesn't have to go to any constitutional issue? >> well, i think it'll uphold in the constitutional grounds and probably the ata, administrative procedure act. whether this is a reasonable decision, i expect a lot of concurrences and a lot of defense. paul: i expect the decent will be read by the bench by one of the liberals. [laughter] paul: very passionate. oral arguments can get heated. >> this one was unique. paul: got 5 words out before sotomayor, justice sotomayor jumped on him. >> what the main thing here is as you said, electoral college, representatives in congress, electoral college never came up in the oral arguments, the politics is overwhelming here,

the support was not going to touch the subject. that's why democrats and liberals want these people counted in this way. >> arizona and texas will be hurt just as much as california, so -- paul: all right, thank you, kim jong un meets with russian president vladimir putin as talks between the u.s. and north korea faulted. why secretary mike pompeo call it is road ahead bumpy

>> break news out of california where we are getting reports that a synagogue shooting in san diego county. according to the san diego sheriff's department out there they are tweeting that the shooting happened at the pawei

synagogue, suburb of san diego, the sheriff's department saying that a man has been detained for questioning in connection with a shooting incident at the shabad synagogue, san diego sheriff's office deputies were call today shibad just before 11:30 this morning. local time there in san diego. there are injuries, again, developing story so we have very little details. apparently the sheriff's department is also issuing a tweet saying be ware of increase law enforcement activity in the 11,000 block of shibad as deputy investigate report of man with a gun, they are asking to please stay clear of the area and allow deputies to do their job and they are thanking for patience and cooperation. 11:30 a.m. california, pacific time at shabad pawei, suburb of

san diego, those are the only details we have. i want to bre in ted williams, ted williams is a former dc detective and also fox news contributor, talk to me about what is going through your mind right now from your standpoint. >> well, the first responders have arrived tat scene and quite naturally they are trying to get control of the scene there and trying to determine what is actually taking place, it's my understanding that one person has been detained and so at this stage i'm sure that they are trying to -- there's great deal of conclusion, this started apparently at 11:30, again, as i said, this is a work in progress

out there at this synagogue at this immediate time. arthel: obviously a developing situation, there are injury that is we are getting here according to from the sheriff's department there, who are they -- if they have the man detained as they are reporting that they do, what are they asking him and what are they asking eyewitnesses there at the synagogue? >> well, if a man detained that we believe, one suspect, the question that they are trying to determine is with us this a lone individual acting out or are there others that are actually involved or in this shooting at this synagogue, they are trying to set up control center there,

but when they happen like, this there's a great deal of confusion on the ground but the first responders there law enforcement agencies as well as the balances, et cetera, et cetera. and get wounded to various hospitals. eric: there are reports in local media that multiple people have been shot in the shooting at the synagogue and ironically it comes 6 months to today at the tree of life shooting in pittsburgh which 11 people were killed, what does that signify if anything to you? >> well, you know, arthel, eric,

it's somewhat scary because you always concern of this type of holiday in the season and passover that there are copy-cats and so it could be, clearly too early to tell what the motive is in regard to this but there's always copycats that act out and quite naturally i'm sure -- arthel: ted, can you standby for us, i have to take a hard break here but we will continue to to the top of the hour, right now we will go back to journal editorial report and join us at 4:00 p.m. eastern at shooting in synagogue in san diego. a once-daily pill for adults with moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis or active psoriatic arthritis for whom methotrexate did not work well enough.

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arthel: this is a fox news alert. this is a live shot here in california, a suburb of san diego, where according to the sheriff's department, there has been a shooting incident at the

chabad synagogue, happening at about 11:30 this morning pacific time. the information we have, which is limited, is that a man has been detained for questioning in connection with the shooting incident there. again, at the chabad synagogue. according to the deputies out there, they're saying they were called to the chabad way just before 11:30 this morning. there are injuries. the extent of those injuries are unknown at this point. you're looking at live pictures there from our fox affiliate, fox 5 in san diego, as the photographer and reporter on-scene are trying to get the i'm mogs fo -- images for you. we were speaking with ted williams, a former d.c. detective and fox news contributor. we were talking about -- you explained to us that the first thing that detectives on-scene and first responders would need to do, because they do have this man in custody, would be to find out if he is working a alone or if he's working with someone. talk to us about that.

>> absolutely. from all that i see here, it appears as though law enforcement have the scene under control. so the next thing that they're trying to do is to determine the individual that they allegedly have detained, to see if he was acting in concert with others and they're also trying to determine as best they can what was the motive for the shooting at this synagogue. as eric stated, just a year ago in pittsburgh, we had a synagogue attack and many, many people killed. and so we're in that holy season where a lot of times you find copy cats. so they now have apparently taken control, meaning lawen l t

and they're trying to figure out what happened here, the rationale. what was the reason for it. arthel: we know people have been shot. we don't know the extent of their injuries. we live in this climate of terrorism. you have what's happening in sri lanka at the moment. we don't want to blow it out of proportion, what's happening at the chabad synagogue. it's possible it could be domestic. we don't know what's happening. what are some of the questions that authorities on scene will be asking eyewitnesses there? >> what they've done, once law enforcement have gotten control of the scene like this, the first thing they want to do is to separate the various eyewitnesses, to try to determine what each and every eyewitness observed or saw and at the same time they are combing that synagogue t